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Fareed Zakaria GPS

Ukraine’s Second Most Powerful Politician And Taiwan’s Foreign Minister

Fareed Zakaria GPS

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4.23.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Ukraine's top presidential aide, Andriy Yermak, talks to Fareed about negotiations with Russia, the state of war, and what victory for Ukraine could look like. Then, Joseph Wu, the foreign minister of Taiwan, joins Fareed for an exclusive interview about the lessons Taiwan is drawing from the war in Ukraine (and how the world is responding). Air date: 05/01/22 To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is GPS, the global public square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and

0:07.6

around the world. I'm Farid Zakaria.

0:10.0

Today on the program, can Russia be weakened enough in Ukraine to force it to retreat

0:18.7

and defeat? Can Kiev actually emerge victorious?

0:25.7

The Turkish Prime Minister Boris Johnson said may be not, but on Thursday President Biden

0:31.2

asked Congress for $33 billion in additional aid to Ukraine, a dramatic increase.

0:37.8

We need to contribute arms, funding, ammunition, and the economic support to make their courage

0:43.0

and sacrifice have purpose.

0:45.5

I will ask Ukrainian President Zelensky's top aid, Andrei Yermanov, if Ukraine is getting

0:51.5

what it needs to win.

0:54.9

Then, looking east, will Putin's invasion inspire China to attack Taiwan?

1:03.2

That is the big question I put it to Taiwan's foreign minister in a fascinating, exclusive

1:09.0

interview.

1:11.8

But first, here's my take.

1:14.8

At first glance, the war in Ukraine would seem to confirm President Biden's oft-express

1:19.5

view that the world today is marked by a contest between democracies and autocracies.

1:25.9

After all, autocratic Russia is waging a savage assault on democratic Ukraine, and the latter

1:31.5

enjoys the staunch support of Western democracies.

1:35.5

On closer examination, however, that framework turns out to be neither accurate nor helpful

1:42.0

as a guide for American foreign policy.

1:44.3

It's true that many of the world's democracies have lined up to support Ukraine, but the

1:49.8

world's most populous democracy, India, has neither condemned the Russian aggression nor

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