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🗓️ 30 May 2023
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Following Russia's failed winter offensive, Ukraine appears to be preparing for its planned counter-offensive. Ryan sat down with Mike Kofman to discuss the state of Russia's armed forces, the current state of the Western-led effort to train and equip Ukrainian forces and the latest from the battle for Bakhmut. The conversation also touched on the role of the British-supplied Storm Shadow cruise missile, Ukraine's ability to absorb the F-16, what exactly happened during the recent cross-border attack on Belgorod and revisited concerns about nuclear escalation.
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0:00.0 | You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on strategy, defense, and foreign affairs. |
0:14.0 | My name is Ryan Evans, the founder of War in the Rocks, and I'm sitting here with Michael Kaufman, who you all know very well and needs no introduction. |
0:22.0 | I think this is the longest we've gone without |
0:23.5 | recording an episode since the war started. Yeah we definitely heard about it. |
0:28.9 | Sorry to those who are waiting, but we're here. We got a long episode to record a lot has happened. I think it might be good to start with the |
0:36.6 | Ukrainian offensive. Has it started, hasn't it started? There seems to be some basic disagreement about this. |
0:42.0 | Sure and a lot of focus on what will happen. |
0:45.0 | Look, you can look at two ways. |
0:47.0 | I mean, it's obvious that the main offense of the operation people are expecting, |
0:51.0 | the one with units specifically |
0:53.1 | so aside for it has not begun yet. In terms of things people like to call |
0:58.6 | doctrine, shaping operations are sort of the maybe preparatory phase or sort of things that set the conditions for the funds of from my point of view that started a few weeks ago and I think the |
1:11.0 | Activities that that involves is a host of Ukrainian troop movements and sort of |
1:16.4 | localized probing attacks along the front, a localized counterattack at Bachmoot, which we can discuss a bit later, but I think was in part meant to fix Russian forces there. |
1:27.0 | A series of strikes against Russian logistics and C2, including those that involve the newly acquired storm shadow |
1:37.2 | air-launched cruise missiles provided by the UK and this most recent diversionary operation, the cross-border raid into Belgrade, which I think is also meant to distract Russian attention and try to get them to consume their resources. |
1:52.0 | So I think you're seeing a host of activities, the net sum of which... and try to get them to consume their resources. |
1:52.5 | So I think you're seeing a host of activities, |
1:54.2 | did not some of wishes that Ukraine is seizing the initiative back |
1:57.6 | for the first time since probably around December. |
2:01.3 | There's quite a bit going on in terms of strikes and trying to set the conditions, |
2:05.8 | sabotage in Russia, strikes that took place before against facilities in Crimea. |
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