This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batchel with Bill Rajol of the Foundation for Defensive Democracies.

He keeps the Long War Journal and one of his chief correspondence and contributors,

John Hardy of the Foundation for Defensive Democracy, is here to help us understand Ukraine conflict.

We've looked at the battlefront.

Now, NATO.

John, are you anticipating or are you seeing reports that NATO is in any way adjusting

its expectations for Ukraine for the new year and the new administration,

either supporting or sending more weapons?

For example, we had the Biden administration announced last week there was a hasty deployment of up to several billion dollars worth of aid to Ukraine.

Do you see any of that out of NATO?

Have there been remarks that suggests that NATO is not going to be engaged with Mr. Trump in the lead?

How is it being reported, John?

So I think for the U.S. part, I think Biden is going to try to accelerate the surge of aid he promised Zelensky recently.

So I think, you know, they probably planned on getting a lot of that aid out

in the year and then before this term ends

and then kind of letting a Kamala Harris administration

continue to provide it.

I think now given that, you know,

obviously Trump will be coming into office.

That it'll probably

accelerate. And so I think you'll see them continue to draw down aid and try to obligate the remainder

of the, the money available under this, what's called the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative,

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