This is the Friends Vista Debating Society. I'm John Batser with Professor H. J. McEnter,

International Relations, returned from his adventures to comment on a two-front war.

Keith, there are remarks made during the week that don't have any sourcing other than

remarks in the media, in London or in the United States. One of the remarks was suggested

that there are 400,000 casualties for Ukraine in the war since February of 2022, 400,000.

Another remarks that I took great seriously is that the generals would remove Zolensky

in a moment if they could, and that he's being held in place by Phil in the Black, NATO,

the United States, the Allies in Poland. The other remark that I saw that was significant

is that Mr. Zolensky himself made an unannounced visit to Brussels, to NATO headquarters on

his way home from America, pleading for money, for weapons, for arms, for support, pleading.

Jans Stoltenberg came out, and so, of course, said, yes, we're going to do what we everything

we can, but Jans Stoltenberg doesn't have ammo or money or arms. He's a servant of

the NATO powers, chiefly, the United States. So, professor, right now in the two-front

war, Europe was first in 1941, 42. It does not appear to be first now, and the rest

of Europe is watching how the United States handles this balancing act, which is not

much in balance at this point. What do you see as a key point of view? Is it time to start

negotiations, back channel, something like that?

Well, I think he has, doesn't have a lot of agency. If they start negotiating, I think

that then they're going to be pressured into making sacrifices, and their support is going

to drain away. Rather, as we saw when, it's not a perfect analogy for any means, but

what we learned from Vietnam long ago was that once the decision has been made to not

to achieve, to give up, to sacrifice the goal that was initially informing the whole enterprise,

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