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This is the Friends of History Debating Society I I'm John Bachelor with Professor H.J.

Mackinder, International Relations. Very generous to comment on seven capitals from the

point of view of the Eurasian supercontinent, two wars active, one war threatened always

in East Asia.

We begin, however, with Jerusalem, because there's been lots of movement in these last days since we spoke

with the professor.

The ceasefire has ended.

The opinion of observers is that Jerusalem's national cabinet will proceed now to

destroy Hamas's leadership wherever it is in Gaza, in Doha, in Cairo, in Ankara, wherever it is.

And the opinion also is that the Jerusalem national leadership is being encouraged to destroy Hamas

by the leaders of the state's most important in the Abraham Accords led by Saudi Arabia.

Let the others who were participating or were going to participate say,

Israel, we're going to wait until you destroy Hamas and then we'll re-engage.

Is the gossip? Your thoughts, Professor.

Well, I'm very skeptical of the idea that there is the military operation that by

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