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This is The Friends of History Debating Society.

I'm John Bachelor welcoming

Professor H.J. Mackinder, International Relations.

We have a new capital this week. It will be Berlin, not Tokyo.

Berlin is much in the news because of an offer we're told from Berlin and

Washington to keep about making a new road of negotiation, a new road of negotiation a new road because there have been negotiation

talks before but this is new however we begin in Jerusalem there are headlines, two wars, a third threatened on one Eurasian

supercontinent.

Thirteen Israeli four foreign hostages freed from Gaza have arrived in Israel, reads the Times of Israel headline.

Release moved ahead only hours after delay, after hours of delays.

Group includes eight Israeli children, five Israeli women, but mother of

one freed child still remains in Gaza captivity and that is a source of dispute between the Israeli authorities and whatever is

dealing on the Hamas side. We're not dealing with an equivalent organization. We're dealing with a gang.

So we don't know what's on the Hamas side. We do know the Israeli authorities are giving

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