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#Ukraine: EU must buy Russian gas. Anatol Lieven, Quincy

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🗓️ 31 January 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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#Ukraine: EU must buy Russian gas. Anatol Lieven, Quincy
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.3

I welcome Anatole Levin of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, Ukraine Conflict,

0:18.4

the headline in the Financial Times in these last hours.

0:22.0

EU debates return to Russian gas as part of Ukraine peace deal.

0:27.7

Subhead, advocates say reopening pipelines could help settlement with Moscow and cut energy costs.

0:36.1

Anatole, this is a surprise, but not a surprise to me,

0:39.7

because for some time now, years maybe,

0:43.3

it's been obvious that the conversion from Russian energy

0:47.3

to a substitute alternative was not going well.

0:52.2

Europe enjoyed what was described to me as two mild winters.

0:57.1

This one is not so mild. In addition, there are many members of the EU dissenting openly from

1:03.6

continuing the Russian war. The big one is Germany, but right now, let's speak to the European

1:09.2

Commission. Your thoughts about European

1:12.6

officials debating whether Russian pipeline gas sales to the EU should be restarted. Does this mean

1:21.4

the end of the beginning of the war with Ukraine? Does this move us to a negotiating position?

1:27.2

Because from my point of view,

1:29.1

it looks like Europe is saying, we've been there, we've done that, it didn't work, we're

1:33.5

going back to what works for us. Good evening to you. Hello, John. Yes, I think the end of the

1:39.4

beginning is a very good way of putting it, because of course there is so much still to discuss,

1:45.4

and we don't know what will happen on the battlefield.

1:48.7

But, yes, I mean, it's the product of two things.

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