#Ukraine: Beijing POV: Inert. Professor H.J. Mackinder, International Relations. #FriendsofHistoryDebatingSociety
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🗓️ 4 June 2023
⏱️ 8 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Friends of History Debating Society with my colleague Professor H. J. McEnter |
| 0:04.4 | International Relations in Beijing. The news from Beijing is peculiar. Chinese Defense Minister |
| 0:11.7 | Lee Shang-Fu extended an offer to his Ukrainian counterpart to use all means, that's in quotes, |
| 0:20.4 | of outreach possible to try to end Russia's war, while also pledging to expand military |
| 0:26.3 | communications with Kiev, according to the Ukraine's Deputy Defense Chief. This is mighty |
| 0:35.2 | strange, Professor. Defense Minister of China coming forward as a diplomat to resolve a war, |
| 0:44.3 | is this is the same defense minister who has avoided speaking with the Defense Minister of |
| 0:51.0 | the United States, the Secretary of Defense, Mr. Austin. Does this explain itself in terms of |
| 0:58.6 | that debt you just mentioned China can't bear? Well, not exactly, but it has to be seen against |
| 1:06.1 | the background of a very chaotic situation, and uncertain situation in China. They actually have |
| 1:13.6 | another fellow who is making the rounds of the European capitals and so forth with a pathetic excuse. |
| 1:22.8 | He is an idea of how to make peace, as it's a way to make peace by first we stop fighting, |
| 1:28.5 | and then we talk about how we can be friends with him. He's absolutely terrible. Well, you have |
| 1:33.6 | to understand, and people don't, because we have this image of China as this remarkable, |
| 1:40.8 | dynamic, thrusting economy that, I mean, a few years ago you had books about it, |
| 1:45.2 | when China rules the world and how everything was going to be Chinese. And now, |
| 1:50.8 | for more than 10 years, you have had a leader in China who is reversing all of the policies, |
| 2:01.6 | imperfect policies, to be sure, but better than what he's putting in policies that encourage |
| 2:06.6 | economic growth. The result is that when we look at the figures for the economy in China, |
| 2:13.8 | it's clear that unemployment is very high, youth unemployment is very high, and there really |
| 2:22.4 | aren't any new jobs being created. Export are falling, the price of the prices of energy, |
| 2:34.9 | the price of coal, all of these things, which are good collective indicators. As a general |
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