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#UKRAINE: ABANDONING CRIMEA IS THREAT TO EUROPE.. ANATOL LIEVEN, QUINCY

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🗓️ 25 April 2025

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#UKRAINE: ABANDONING CRIMEA IS THREAT  TO  EUROPE.. ANATOL LIEVEN, QUINCY
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.5

I welcome Anatole Levin of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft,

0:16.7

comment on what we know and what is logical in the tangle of voices.

0:23.2

Washington, that would be Donald Trump and Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State.

0:28.3

Moscow, that would be Lavrov, the foreign minister, and, of course, the President, Vladimir Putin.

0:33.6

And then, Mrs. Zelensky of Keefe, having to do with Crimea.

0:38.8

The headline in the FT points us to the tangle.

0:42.3

Donald Trump's move on Russia-occupied Crimea forces Europe to choose sides.

0:47.5

Subhead.

0:48.8

U.S. offered to recognize annexation of territory, alarms Keefe, and other European capitals.

0:55.1

One of those capitals I know from the FTs report elsewhere is Berlin, the incoming Chancellor, Friedrich Merck,

1:03.3

takes office in early May, has rejected entirely the idea that Europe will permit Russia to annex Crimea, the very important

1:17.2

piece of the puzzle that has been in Russian occupied hands since 2014 and the Little Green

1:25.8

Men.

1:27.1

Anatole, a very good evening to you. Thank you for this.

1:29.9

There are 27 nations in the EU that I believe they're 32 in NATO. Getting them to agree

1:34.9

on anything is a miracle. But right now there does not seem to be loud dissent from the

1:40.8

idea of Russia, of permitting Russia to annex Crimea.

1:47.6

But the voice that I listened to keenly was Friedrich Merritt, the incoming chancellor,

1:53.1

who said no, no, and no, very clearly.

1:55.8

There was no ambiguity in that.

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