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Hey Tim, how's it going?

Hello, it's nice to see you, Sean.

Can I say before we begin?

I caught a little bit of the previous guest.

I was immensely moved by John's testimony.

I thought it was brave and extraordinarily pertinent, actually,

to some of the things we're going to be talking about.

Mostly the idea that you can't just shuffle off

and silence these things.

You've got to talk about them.

And the process of healing takes a long time.

And the abuse of power is so phenomenal

and is getting worse and worse in our society.

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