Welcome to Unfuck Your Brain. The only podcast that teaches you how to use psychology, feminism,

and coaching to rewire your brain and get what you want in life. And now here's your

host, Harvard Law School grad, feminist rock star, and master coach, Carla Lohanthile.

So my chickens, every time I say I'm so excited for this conversation, and then every time

I say I always say that, but it's true. But I think that today, you know, there are topics

that I talk about that apply to everybody. There are topics I talk about that are a little

more niche or niche, depending on how you pronounce that. But I really think today, the

topic that we're talking about today is something that literally anybody who has a body

has experienced, which is when your body doesn't follow your manual. And what we mean by

that is like, basically when your body behaves in a way that you would prefer what didn't

behave when your body isn't doing what you want. And so for some of us that may be like

a daily occurrence, for some of us, it might be more occasional. But I think if you live

in a human body, if this hasn't happened to you, you're very young, probably it's going

to eventually happen to you just by the law of statistics and getting older. So we are

going to dig into that today. Why that is so challenging for so many of us, how we try

to control that, how as usual, trying to control something we can't control makes everything

feel worse. So here with two of my students, we're amazing coaches, Deb and Michelle. And

I'm going to let them introduce themselves and tell you guys a bit about what they do

and start with Deb and then Michelle. Hello. My name is Deb Malkin and I am a chronic

pain coach and I take a like a weight neutral approach. I'm also pretty radical bad acceptance

forage and background. So I help people work on their mind body relationship to the sensations

in their body, to chronic pain and conditions and help folks create the sense of wellness

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