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Intelligence Matters

U.S. Political Violence on the Rise: Professor Bob Pape

Intelligence Matters

CBS News

(154991), News, Cbs, Politics, Government

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Intelligence Matters, Michael Morell speaks with University of Chicago political science professor and director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats Robert "Bob" Pape about his ongoing research on political violence in America and its implications as the midterms approach. His new research finds that 5% of American adults, or around 13 million people, agree that the use of force is justified to restore Donald Trump to the presidency. Pape discusses the ways in which political violence has turned mainstream and is being exacerbated by political leaders. 

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0:00.0

From CBS News, this is Intelligence Matters with former acting director of the CIA, Micah Morel.

0:09.0

What you see, Michael, from the focus groups is a little bit deeper understanding of the cocktail that's leading not just to support for Trump, but violence, support for Trump.

0:26.0

What you have in the great replacement is this idea that people who have built their whole lives a certain amount of stuff, certain amount of things, certain amount of advantages, they see that this is all now vulnerable to be lost to who they see as undeserving people.

0:45.0

And they see that what's the reason this could happen is because there are corrupt immoral leaders who are doing that, willing to basically have them lose everything that they and their families have worked for in order to make some short term political gain.

1:05.0

Bob Pate is a professor of political science at the University of Chicago and the director of the Chicago project on security and threats.

1:15.0

Bob has been on our show before and he joins us today to provide us an update on his research on political violence here in the United States.

1:23.0

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3:03.0

Bob, welcome back to Intelligence Matters. It's great to have you again.

3:07.0

Thank you, Michael. Always glad to be here.

3:10.0

So, Bob, as you know, we want to get an update on your research on attitudes toward political violence in the United States, particularly as we approach the midterms.

3:23.0

And, you know, quite frankly, not far behind those will be the campaign for the 2024 presidential election.

3:31.0

So, you know, perfect time to get an update on what C-post is doing in this realm. So, Bob, what I really want to do is I want to start with your research findings and then transition to sort of the implications of those findings if that makes sense to you.

3:49.0

Perfect.

3:50.0

And I think of your research as maybe you don't think of it this way, but I think of your research as kind of being a triad, you know, your work on those individuals arrested for their actions on January 6th at the US Capitol is one.

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