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Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration

Tyson Yunkaporta: Shifting from ‘health & wellness’ to communities of care

Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration

Kaméa Chayne

Earth Sciences, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

4.8694 Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

What does it mean to reject the monocultural delusion of separation and endless growth, and to nurture systems that honor context and the brilliance of neurodiversity? What is the relationship between altered states of mind from ceremonies and our shared senses of “reality”? And how do we shift our focuses away from “health and wellness” — towards informal, “black market” economies of care?

In Green Dreamer’s round two interview with Dr. Tyson Yunkaporta, we explore the connections between his first book, Sand Talk, and his latest, Right Story Wrong Story — including how they question the standard protocols of trigger warnings for depression and suicide.

How do we recalibrate our collective perceptions of the tangible world — when the “diversity in thought” of today feels so disoriented and ungrounded?

We invite you to…


Content advisory: Please note that this conversation includes a brief discussion on the topic of trigger warnings for suicide.

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0:22.3

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0:47.6

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0:53.9

We need to move away from personal ideas of health, that each of us as a self-managing

1:01.5

neoliberal subject will, you know, be responsible for making ourselves capable of optimal

1:08.9

performance in service of the glorious nation, yeah, or the glorious ethno state,

1:15.4

or the glorious religion that we follow or whatever.

1:19.9

So what would replace that?

1:21.8

Because we still want to be healthy.

1:23.7

So what do we talk about instead?

1:25.1

We need to talk about care.

1:37.2

Hello, dear one. You are listening to Green Dreamer, and I'm your host, Kamea Shane.

1:46.4

I've been feeling a bit burnt out lately, so apologies for publishing this a few days later than our normal publication schedule. But there's so much in this conversation that I really wanted to honor it

1:51.8

by making sure that I was feeling capacious and fully present in my head and heart space when

1:59.3

working on this episode,

2:01.3

which features none other than Dr. Tyson Yankapora,

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