[REPLAY] A. Naomi Paik: Immigration, deportation, and military recruits of the disenfranchised
Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration
Kaméa Chayne
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🗓️ 19 June 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
This is a replay from May 2022 on Sanctuary for All, Sanctuary Everywhere — on the deportability of workers as labor discipline, immigration policy as labor policy, military recruits from disenfranchised communities and migrant workers, challenging the “nation of immigrants” narrative, and more.
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| 0:54.8 | Hello, dear one. |
| 0:56.6 | These are challenging times and my heart is with you and your community, |
| 1:02.6 | whatever you may be going through right now. |
| 1:05.9 | I felt compelled to republish this conversation with Naomi Pake from 2022 because of how pertinent |
| 1:12.8 | this discussion is for these times on deportation and the deportability of workers as labor |
| 1:19.0 | discipline, immigration policy as labor policy, how the military recruits disproportionately |
| 1:25.4 | from disenfranchised communities to be deployed disproportionately |
| 1:29.2 | against other or the same disenfranchised communities, the increasing outsourcing of military |
| 1:35.5 | work to migrant workers, challenging the nation of immigrants' narrative, and so, so much more. |
| 1:41.9 | I hope it stirs, expands, and shifts you in the ways that it did for me |
| 1:48.3 | and in the ways that this time needs from us. And yeah, take good care. |
| 1:56.4 | Hey, it's your host, Kamea, and you're listening to Green Dreamer, a community-powered podcast. |
| 2:02.9 | In this pertinent time, independent media shining a light on alternate perspectives and issues, |
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