Two Editors Go Nuclear on Each Other: A Conversation with Gideon Rose

War on the Rocks

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🗓️ 16 October 2018

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Can two great power publications peacefully co-exist? Or are they fated to clash? And what if you throw nuclear weapons into the mix? Gideon Rose and Ryan Evans, the benevolent editorial autocrats of Foreign Affairs and War on the Rocks seek to answer these questions and more. They dive deep into a new special issue of Foreign Affairs: "Do Nuclear Weapons Matter?" The issue features a diverse range of thinkers on nuke – some of whom have also written for WOTR – including Elbridge Colby, John Mueller, Olga Oliker, Scott Sagan, Caitlin Talmadge, and Nina Tannenwald. Gideon and Ryan also dish about editing, dealing with different kinds of authors, and whether wordsmithing drives them to drink. After this display of inter-publication generosity, Ryan demands the unconditional surrender of Foreign Affairs.

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0:00.0	You are listening to Warren the Rocks a podcast on strategy, defense, and foreign affairs.
0:18.1	My name is Ryan Evans, I'm the editor-in-chief of Warren the Rocks.
0:21.2	In this episode, I sit down with Gideon Gideon Rose the editor of Foreign Affairs.
0:24.8	We test a key question in international relations.
0:27.7	Can two great power publications peacefully coexist or are they faded to clash? Because that situation isn't fraud enough, we throw nukes into the mix.
0:36.0	More specifically, the new special issue of foreign affairs featuring a range of leading thinkers on nuclear
0:40.3	war, including some friends of war on the rocks.
0:42.1	Enjoy the rocks.
0:42.6	Enjoy the show.
0:45.7	Gideon, I really can't imagine why you'd want to do a special issue on nuclear issues.
0:50.4	It's not like, I mean, we're really focused on these things these days.
0:54.3	So the reason we did the nuclear package was because after the last couple of years, it's pretty clear
1:00.1	that no one knows nothing about anything.
1:03.0	And as a trained social scientist,
1:06.0	that made me more rather than less interested
1:08.4	in revisiting some classic issues that sort of
1:11.0	went into the history books without resolution.
1:13.6	The Cold War ended and we never really decided whether deterrence worked, and we've never really
1:18.2	come up with a good explanation for what nukes do in the post-Cold War world,
1:23.6	whether they're really necessary.
1:24.9	We all get upset about them in periodic spasms of attention
1:29.2	and they're brought in to justify some policy somebody else wants,
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