Hey everybody it's Joe Trippy and welcome back to that Trippy show.

This week two coups thwarted, one by the Supreme Court sort of and by and

another seriously the president of Belarus this can't be right and of course more Trump tape leaks but Ron

DeSantis isn't exactly taking advantage man do we have a lot to cover and we've got a

special guest joining us to help break it all down.

Our friend David Pepper.

He's also got a new book out saving democracy a user's manual for every American, which

will definitely talk about today.

David, welcome.

Thank you, great to be back with you.

Alex, with all that we have to talk about, where do you want to get started, man?

Yeah, I, we got to start with to talk about where do you want to get started, man?

Yeah, I, we got to start with one of the coups.

I suppose we should go to Russia first.

So this one and started with, I think it kind of started with the bang, it definitely ended with a whimper, but

Prigoshian's not really a ku ku ku ku. They took Rostov, they started moving towards Moscow,

they claimed they shot down a plane, and then it just kind of fizzled out.

Apparently the whole time he was negotiating with the Putin and the Russian government and like you mentioned at the top show I think

Lukashenko the Belarusian president was like a mediator on all this and

and then pre-Gosian just kind of stood down so I wanted both of your take as kind of very active in the pro-democracy space.

What do you guys make of what the hell just happened in Russia?

I mean, I'll say this is David, I don't want to claim to know too much I don't think any of us know that much but one it

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