TWiV 1029: David Tuller on Long COVID and ME/CFS

This Week in Virology

Vincent Racaniello

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🗓️ 27 July 2023

⏱️ 61 minutes

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David Tuller returns to TWiV to provide an update on ME/CFS, the PACE trial, developments related to the NICE guidelines, and how similar practices and ideologies are being applied to long COVID. Host: Vincent Racaniello Guest: David Tuller Subscribe (free): Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, RSS, email Become a patron of TWiV! Links for this episode MicrobeTV Discord Server David Tuller at virology blog CFS, a long tangled tale (virology blog) Request for Correction of Prevalence Rates Cited in FND Paper (virology blog) Estimates of long COVID prevalence (virology blog) Timestamps by Jolene. Thanks! Intro music is by Ronald Jenkees Send your virology questions and comments to [email protected]

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0:00.0	This week in virology, the podcast about viruses, the kind that make you sick.
0:10.8	From microbe TV, this is Tweev, this week in virology, a special episode recorded on July 21st,
0:20.1	2023. I'm Vincent Racken yellow and you're listening to the podcast all about viruses
0:27.6	joining me today here in New York at the incubator, David Tuller. Hi Vincent, how you doing?
0:34.3	Welcome back. Thank you. It's been a while. Pre-pandemic, I would think.
0:38.9	I have it written down here. You were last year on October 13th, 2021. Oh really? Okay.
0:45.6	Over two is that almost two years, I guess. Right. And you were actually the first guest at the
0:53.2	incubator. Oh really? Oh, I'm in the space, I mean in the physical space. I remember that,
0:57.3	which was a few years ago. Yeah, I think that was that then. No, we had been in it for about a year.
1:04.6	Yeah, that makes sense. And so David, you are still senior fellow in public health and
1:09.6	journalism at the Center for Global Public Health at the School of Public Health at the University
1:14.2	of California Berkeley. Yes, I still have that title. Yes. Okay. You know, I do still have that
1:21.1	title. Yeah. All right. So we have a lot of new listeners. And I just want to explain to them how
1:27.5	I know you and and that I'm not a virologist. You're not a virologist. Why are you here and all of that
1:33.6	stuff? So you you write for a virologist, well, you're a journalist, right? You have been a journalist
1:40.4	for many years, right? Covering the health beat mainly? Yeah, I was covering health. And then I
1:44.7	was a editor. Yeah, it was at the San Francisco Chronicle. And then I wrote a lot for the New York Times
1:49.3	covering health stuff. And then I was I decided to go to public health school at Berkeley. So I got
1:56.3	first a master's and then a doctorate, a DRPH, not a PhD, but a doctorate public health. It's sort
2:02.0	of a interdisciplinary public health degree. And in the course of that, you and I connected because
2:08.8	there was a whole period where I started writing about chronic fatigue syndrome at the time
2:14.9	around when they thought it was XMRV, a the mouse bridge for virus. And you had written on your blog
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