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Baby, this is Keke Palmer

Turning Shade Into Shine with Trixie Mattel

Baby, this is Keke Palmer

Wondery

Comedy, Society & Culture

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Watch out because there’s a NEW Barbie in the building today! You probably know her from “RuPaul’s Drag Race” or her incredible Youtube show “Trixie & Katya”—that’s right, we’re talking about Trixie Mattel! She’s here to tell the story of how she transformed a childhood insult into a brand that’s taken over the world, from drag superstardom to beauty mogul status. Along the way, she gets real about stepping away from social media and how taking a break actually reignited her love for drag. Plus, we’re talking biggest turnoffs, glam room nightmares, and why a flawless makeup beat is basically a superpower. Trust us, this episode is nothing but realness…with just a touch of highlighter!

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0:00.0

This episode is sponsored by Airbnb. If spring fever's got you feeling a little,

0:05.7

and see, might I suggest booking an Airbnb for a change of scenery? Now, let's start the show.

0:16.4

What's up, listeners? Today we are talking about turning shade into shine, criticism into confidence, and pain into power.

0:24.1

And baby, I can't think of anyone who embodies that more than my guest today, the one, the only, Trixie Mattel, who adopted the drag named Trixie after her stepfather used it to put her down for being feminine.

0:35.9

We're getting into all that. Trixie's break from social media and drag, ending things with her long-term partner and more. So let's go. Because, baby, this is Kiki Palmer. No matter what we're doing in the car, just chilling, popo, Amazon music, sit back and listen. Life, love, sex, science, covering it all. Especially the bad, because money always involved.

0:56.0

No matter what it is, we gonna make it make sense.

0:58.0

Nothing else will do but kick it with the homies and kids.

1:00.0

So grab you a drink and a snack you enjoy and get it into the vibe that only one is...

1:05.0

You know it's your girls!

1:06.0

Baby, this, this is Kiki.

1:09.0

Baby, this is Kiki Poma, yeah.

1:16.1

I am really excited to work with Tricky.

1:18.9

Talk to Trixie.

1:19.6

I worked with her on the Google Pixel launch.

1:23.3

Oh, okay.

1:23.9

You remember she was there with Monet Exchange.

1:26.8

Oh, okay, okay.

1:27.3

Both drag queens were on Drew Paul's, Drew Paul's, RuPaul's drag race. All my words are mixing back and forth. But I met them there, fabulous, fabulous girls. So I'm excited to talk to Trixie because I didn't realize this story. You know, Key, who did my hair, he's also from, you know, him and Lur, both from Milwaukee.

1:47.5

So it's Trixie.

1:48.3

Oh, okay.

1:48.7

And she's got a drag bar down there that Key did one of his first drag shows.

1:54.6

Oh, very nice.

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