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Woman Evolve with Sarah Jakes Roberts

Turning Heat Into Light

Woman Evolve with Sarah Jakes Roberts

Woman Evolve, Inc

Society & Culture

4.86.7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

When the pressure is on, do you shut down or shine up? In this powerful convo, Sarah Jakes Roberts sits with Dr. Sarah Elizabeth Lewis and Dr. Anita Phillips to talk creativity, the gift of failure, and how to separate your work from your worth. They unpack why dreaming can feel risky right now, how to handle pressure without losing your identity, and what it means to build on what broke. From "turning heat into light" to seeing art as a path toward justice, this episode will meet you where it hurts and remind you there is purpose in your process. If you've been grieving a job loss, navigating a creative dry spell, or questioning your next move, press play and get language, wisdom, and courage for the season you're in.
Keywords: Sarah Jakes Roberts, Dr. Sarah Elizabeth Lewis, The Rise, Dr. Anita Phillips, creativity, failure, resilience, faith, mental health, Black women, vision and justice.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It is my belief that God desires us to be in relationship with people because his plan is best manifested through partnership, but not to be relying on our affirmation, our identity to come from other people.

0:15.0

That is my hope that we see the creative gift that we've been given as one that is foundational for how we redefine

0:22.2

who we can be in society. It will not always be like this. Stay well and stay ready and keep pouring

0:27.7

out your gifts because things will shift. Well, well, well, look who the cat has drugged. What are you

0:37.0

doing with your life? What is happening in your world,

0:40.3

baby? Is you barely hanging on? Are you doing all that you can? What is happening? Are you showing up

0:45.9

with strength and courage and like you're full and confident? Or are we just ready for everyone

0:51.5

to get some worse sit down and not touch anything? No matter where you are on the spectrum, I just want you to know that I am grateful that

0:58.5

you are choosing to start your day with me. That means something to me. And I am grateful.

1:04.0

And I love to mind your business and I'm going to get into that. But first of all, let me see,

1:09.2

how am I doing? I am both barely hanging on

1:12.3

and unbothered at the same time. I think because I'm barely hanging on, I am choosing selectively

1:17.9

where I am giving my energy and it has been liberating. Did I tell y'all the story about the dog?

1:25.1

Did I tell you all the story about the dog? I can't remember when I recorded.

1:28.2

But here's the thing. The point is this. I had something happened with the family and the dog.

1:33.7

And my husband really inspired me because he was so clear on what he could or could not do that it made made me realize that, like, I have been bending and

1:46.9

stretching and contorting to make things happen that I did not have to take on the sole responsibility

1:54.8

for. Like, no one told you you had to do all of that on your own. You chose to do it all on your own

2:02.2

so that you, because you didn't think other people would be willing to be inconvenienced or because

2:06.4

you didn't want to inconvenienced to them. And now look at you, inconvenienced. That's your first,

2:11.7

middle and last name. Look at you, tired, broke down, weary, not what God wants for me. And so you

2:16.8

know what I said? I decided to start

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