You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast.

The question I had, and then this is more of a personal question for you, but it's like,

do you see like sometime in the future, you know, an endpoint to your podcast?

And I don't mean like, you know, okay, I've had enough.

I'm giving up this.

But more like, you know, you're satisfied with like the work that you've done, you know,

you don't have a lot more to say, do you kind of see an end point?

Yeah. I am pleased to be joined by Calvin. How are you, Calvin?

I'm doing well. Thanks for coming on. My history. Can beat up your politics. How long do you think you've been listening? Well, when I originally wrote to you, I thought it was about, you know, 15, 16 years or so. And I just kind of was thinking about it. Well, my dad passed away about 14 years ago. You know, we had some conversations up to the point regarding history, and it's like,

I've been listening to you for like a few years before that. So it's probably more like 17, 18,

something like that. I don't think I was right at the beginning, but somewhere near it, I guess.

Actually, I'm kind of glad because I feel like the first three years, you know, the mic wasn't good, file size issues.

And I think that after that's where it really started hitting stride and we started doing some larger episodes.

Yeah, I just remember, I had like one of those old iPods, you know, the one with a circle in the middle.

Yes, yes.

Like one of the first or second generation and something like that.

And I was looking on iTunes. It's like, podcast. It's like, what is that? You know, found a few that I liked. And there's a couple others that I've been listening to that like the time. But yours, just the title of it caught my attention. And I'm a you know, and I'm a little bit of a student of

history, not quite a history buff, but, you know, I like listening, you know, reading about history

and, you know, finding up stuff like, you know, what happens in our past. I remember reading a book,

an early book about podcasting, and they said, you know, spent a lot of time on the title because even in

2006 believe it or not like they're already a bunch of podcasts already hundreds of them so they were

saying well you got to stand out how are you going to stand out they said well it's not good enough to

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