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The Daily

Tuesday, June 20, 2017

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

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🗓️ 20 June 2017

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

The battle for Mosul is entering its final and most challenging phase, with Iraqi forces there engaged in the most intensive urban warfare since World War II. The Times embeds with one Iraqi unit. Guests: Ben C. Solomon, a video journalist who has been following Iraqi fighters in Mosul; Adam Liptak, who discusses the Supreme Court’s decision to consider whether partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution. Caitlin Dickerson is our host; Michael Barbaro is on vacation. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2twhjwL.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Caitlin Dickerson. This is The Daily.

0:08.2

Today, the battle for Mosul is entering its final and most challenging phase.

0:13.6

As the US leads airstrikes on Mosul's old city, it's Iraqi forces that are on the ground there,

0:19.6

engaged in the most intensive urban warfare since World War II. The Times embeds with one

0:25.9

Iraqi unit, and the Supreme Court makes a rare decision to get involved in politics.

0:35.5

It's Tuesday, June 20th.

0:41.8

We're going to take the slow. This is both new for us.

0:43.7

Yeah, okay. Ben Solomon, we've been reporting on the battle for Mosul for months,

0:49.6

and usually we talk about airstrikes that are led by the United States military.

0:54.7

But you recently embedded with the Iraqi army. So what's their role in this battle?

0:59.4

Well, the Iraqi army is leading the fight right now. So much of the past was more

1:03.6

of the Americans leading a fight and trying to make the Iraqis a better army to bolster them.

1:10.1

The battle there has been a real test for the Iraqi army in both running their own combat

1:14.6

missions and also what it means for the Americans to support them without actually having a force

1:20.1

on the ground. And who are these soldiers? They are regular young kids. I mean, I kind of think

1:26.1

most people would expect these guys to be very devout. The reality is a lot of them have tattoos,

1:31.8

a lot of them smoke and drink, a lot of them are just young, 20-something kids, and it's a really

1:37.2

easy career for them to kind of jump in because a lot of the Iraqi needs is just young men to fight.

1:43.2

And in Iraq, for the past 30, 40 years, the biggest constant has been war. And the biggest thing

1:49.3

that a lot of these kids see and the biggest path they see to success is kind of being a part of

1:53.2

that. And the reality is the mechanism for trying to teach these guys to turn into soldiers as

1:58.0

quickly as possible is probably not up to the standards that Americans might want.

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