Tucker Versus MAGA | Interview: David Frum

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4.4 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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David Frum joins Jamie Weinstein to break down Trump’s Iran strikes, the brewing civil war within MAGA over foreign policy, and the winners (and losers) of the tariff war. The Agenda:—The state of the Trump administration—Analyzing the Iran strikes—MAGA’s foreign policy split—Immigration policy—J.D. Vance and opportunism—What’s going on with the Democratic Party? The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Dispatch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and regular livestreams—⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:29.7	Welcome to the dispatch podcast. I'm Jamie Weinstein. My guest today is a returning one, David
0:36.0	Frum. He is staff writer at the Atlantic and host of the
0:39.6	David Frum show. He last was on this podcast making the conservative case for voting for
0:45.3	Vice President Harris during the presidency. In this episode, we discuss what he makes of the first
0:50.8	150 days of the Trump administration, whether Trump's strike on Iran changes
0:55.9	his view of the first 150 days of the Trump administration at all? What is Benjamin Netanyahu's
1:01.7	legacy? What he makes of the MAGA movement, or at least the Steve Mann and Tucker Carlson
1:07.5	Wing of MAGA and the relationship with Israel, the threat of Donald Trump's
1:12.5	democracy, and more. Without further ado, I give you Mr. David Frum.
1:32.7	David Frum, welcome to the dispatch podcast.
1:34.0	Thank you so much.
1:39.4	I'm excited to have this conversation, David, because I think when we scheduled it 10 days ago,
1:45.5	it might be a little bit different conversation now than it would have been then post the Iran strikes.
1:52.1	But let me just begin with a general question. We are a little over 150 days into the Trump administration. Is it better or worse than you expected? Well, can I pause to pay a thank you I need
1:58.1	to pay, which is I'm recording this from the offices of the Picton Gazette and Picton, Ontario.
2:01.8	I've had a little technical trouble today, and their kind hospitality is what is allowing us to have a live internet connection.
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