Thanks for doing this. I appreciate it. I'll just say at the outset, which I told you off camera, I disagree with this conceptually, I think, but I'm also completely ignorant of the details.

Yeah.

So I kind of want to know what this is before even asking you questions about whether it's a good idea.

Can you just, I'll just stand back and let you explain what you're doing.

Yeah, so first, thanks for having me on.

Of course.

So patients, there's one way of reproducing via IVF, right?

So you can conceive naturally via sex or maybe if you're infertile or if you have some sort of heartytered disease or for some other reason you do IVF when you do yeah i'm sorry i'm gonna i specialize

in dumb questions can you just explain for people to know what is IVF yeah what is IVF stands for

in vitual fertilization so basically imagine the egg and the sperm right the foundation of life to make an embryo

it's basically putting those things together in a clinic.

And then basically you take that embryo and you transfer it into a woman and then it implant and the woman's pregnant.

So conception takes place outside the womb.

Correct.

Okay.

Yeah.

And so during this process of IVF, what you do is today, even if nucleus didn't exist, even if genetic optimization didn't exist, you make several embryos. Okay? So in an IVF clinic, you make several embryos. The amount of embryos end up making, it varies, but you might have four or five. You actually do genetic testing on these embryos to identify things like chromosome abnormalities, like Down syndrome, for example. So that's very commonplace. That's done in basically every IVF clinic in the United States. They will actually screen embryos, the genetics of the embryos, to see if they have some sort of severe chromosomal abnormality. What we do is we basically provide more information on embryos. So we also read the DNA, but now we give information on things like

other heritory disease risks, also chronic diseases, things like cancers, Alzheimer's, diabetes,

also traits like IQ or height or etc. So to be clear, we're not changing any DNA. There's this

process in IVF where you make embryos already genetic testing is done in embryos. What we do now is you provide you a little bit more information on your embryos. So basically, that information can be used, then implant which embryo the couple deems to be best. So basically give more information to couples to then choose which embryo they want to implant. I don't want to derail this conversation two minutes in. Okay. But you've just said we can tell the IQ of a person by the

genetics? So I was reliably informed IQ is not real. Okay. And it's not determined by genetics.

So, so there's, so I think it's helpful to think about all these different

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