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TU40: Meditation And Neuroplasticity Provide a Path To Healing – An Interview With Sarah Peyton

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Education, Self-improvement, Relationships

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2017

⏱️ 38 minutes

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IN THIS EPISODE: Meditation And Neuroplasticity Provide a Path To Healing: An Interview With Sarah Peyton Show Notes Patty Olwell interviews Sarah Peyton, author of Your Resonant Self: Guided Meditations & Exercises to Engage Your Brain’s Capacity for Healing on the neuroscience of language and emotions. Their discussion covers Sarah’s background in non-violent communication and her more recent work with the impact of specific interventions and meditations to foster brain plasticity and empathy towards ourselves and others. They explore what kinds of language can we use that lets brains relax and move into a space of fluidity? How does this relate to healing from trauma? What kind of language do we use with ourselves to develop empathy? How do we develop an inner voice of understanding rather than self-criticism?   Timeline 0:00 Intro 1:44 – What drew Sarah Peyton to this work – First non-violent communication (Marshall Rosenberg) Rosenberg weekend – first time hearing that use of language 3:51 – How non-violent communication works like therapy – a place where people listen rather than just try to problem solve – what happens when you use feeling words & how it changes the activity of the amygdala – (Matthew Lieberman) 4:40 – Matthew Lieberman study of facial expressions –when you accurately name the facial expression/emotions you’re seeing, the activity in the amygdala falls by half- people using language differently put Peyton into a space of fluidity (there is always an amygdala response to intense facial expressions) 5:29 – Daniel Siegel – Name it to tame it – Why does this work? 6:02 – What kinds of language do we use that lets brains relax and move into a space of fluidity? How does this relate to healing from trauma? How are brains impacted by trauma? Language as the neurotransmitters of human-ness – Verbal & nonverbal communication between two people 8:45 – Shift of focus from communication to brains – Daniel Siegel’s The Developing Mind, The Neurobiology of We 10:30 – How are we moved & changed by the words we use with one another? 12:00 – Dan Siegel’s contingent communication – how do our words reflect that we actually heard the other person? This quality comes through very subtly even in written communication 14:37 – Study of how Sarah Peyton used words with her children revealed the breaks & chasms between getting business of life done and having a relational connection 15:52 – What kind of language do we use with ourselves? Matthew Lieberman’s work with the default mode network. How do our minds think when there’s nothing else to process? When the brain is not directed towards something in particular, it reverses to default network. 18:07 – What is the automatic voice of our brain and can it be changed? 19:32 – Your Resonant Self: Guided Meditations & Exercises to Engage Your Brain’s Capacity for Healing – Speaking unkindly to yourself – Importance of warmth in language – Trauma impacts the default network – experiences of being alone create default networks that are trying to help us – How do we turn towards voice of understanding rather than self-critical voice? 22:31 – How to be precise with language: To be precise with what the feeling tone is. To be precise with what the deep longing is: survival, thriving, peace, room to grow, capacity to have your own timing, etc. Precision with what the timing of the trauma is – that the trauma is no longer happening – By using the past tense, the brain is using precision – What’s so upsetting is in the past and getting acknowledgment 25:01 – People often say yes most often when asked if they’re seeking acknowledgment for what happened in the past. Bonnie Badenoch’s study of Nepalese boy soldiers All boy soldiers had the same experience but the boys who went home to environments wher...

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Welcome to Therapist Uncensored, a podcast where therapists freely speak their minds about real life matters.

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In today's episode, Pattywop interviews guests Sarah Payton on the

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neuroscience of language and emotions. Sarah is a neuroscience educator and

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trainer in nonviolent communication and she combines her

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love of neuroscience and language in a rich discussion about how our choice of

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language can significantly impact the way we think, the way we feel, the way really and

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generally we respond to the world.

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Sarah has recently published a book called Your Resinant Self, Gu meditations and exercises to engage your brain's

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capacity for healing.

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This conversation I think will really resonate with most of our listeners out there who are incredibly interested in the way we hold our own capacity to

0:57.4

heal ourselves and to connect to others. So enjoy.

1:00.9

Hi Sarah. Hi Patty.

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I'm delighted to have you here with us today and have you speaking to our listeners.

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Thank you.

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I'm really excited and happy to be here.

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Thanks.

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I am really interested in your work.

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It's very rich and has a whole lot of different strengths moving together. I know your most recent work that I'm

1:25.1

familiar with is the interpersonal neurobiology, but you also have this long history of nonviolent

1:32.1

communications. Yes. this long history of nonviolent communications and you have worked in the prison system and so I would love

1:38.8

you to tell us a little bit about how you came to your work.

1:43.0

Oh, thank you.

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