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Therapist Uncensored Podcast

TU39: Getting What You Want From Therapy – The Essentials Of A Therapeutic Relationship

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Education, Self-improvement, Relationships

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2017

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

IN THIS EPISODE: Getting What You Want From Therapy: The Essentials Of A Therapeutic Relationship Show Notes Dr. Ann Kelley, Sue Marriott & Patty Olwell chat about the importance of building a strong therapeutic relationship with clients. We’ll discuss how feelings of love, hate, disappointment, excitement and more between a therapist and a patient are not only normal, but even potentially essential to working towards healing. They break-down counter-transference and how mutual influence works to help clients grow. Timeline 0:00-0:27 Intro Questions 0:27- Possibilities for Therapist-Client relationship (potential for harm from power differential in the relationship OR neural sculpting) – When choosing a therapist, be prepared to be changed by this new relationship. Therapists are permanently changed once attached to clients – mutual sculpting 1:53 –Old analytic model of psychotherapy – therapist as flat, neutral agent. Therapist actually can influence the client. Relationship as we know it now is not unidirectional – the most healing agent is the relationship in psychotherapy. 2:30 – How to pick a therapist – interview several 2:54 – What to do if you’re experiencing love, hate, disappointment, excitement, etc. in a relationship with your therapist The General Theory of Love – it’s normal to feel these feelings and it also may be essential to the healing agent 4:36 – Now that you understand these feelings are normal – what next? Talk about them with your therapist – express your feelings, then let process begin – However this experience may be regressive and if the therapist isn’t willing to help you may have to move on 6:44 – How to discern when emotional events are part of the therapeutic process of working through past trauma or when it’s harmful and retraumatizing Hope to have a different outcome than in the past – We can learn that we have difficult feelings or conflicts but it doesn’t have to end the relationship. It is possible to talk about and process these feelings with your therapist. 8:22 Discerning between healthy and unhealthy emotions in relationship Openness & willingness to talk through – Discomfort is part of journey towards healing 9:20 – Difference between feeling uncomfortable and actually being unsafe – Nesting Dolls – Problem of acting or thinking a certain way only around therapist versus outside the office 11:00 – Feeling safe, then feeling vulnerable when seeking advice in therapy 11:57 – Therapists need to follow the clients lead when someone comes in seeking career advice or a quick fix for a problem – If client isn’t ready or interested in deep processing we can move as quickly or as slowly as they need. 13:05 – Therapists want patients to find answer themselves, but often also want to be helpful – problem of giving/expecting advice 14:37 – Counter-transference – Therapists feelings get brought up – Therapy as an interpersonal dance 20:30 – Sue’s anecdote about the pay less price tag – compared to being in a family where you can’t name the embarrassing/traumatizing element in your life 22:31 – See therapist in a way that allows client to express emotions 27:00 – Empathy in therapists – don’t want to deny clients the power position in power differential 27:51 – As a client there’s a felt need to not have to take care of therapist in terms – expectation of a certain level of maturity, experience, intelligence, etc. ; have a bigger, stronger other that allows you to be “messy” 28:30 – How and why a boundary is important in a therapeutic relationship – need to feel safe – Frame (time, space, money) – Frame will not be broken 31:03 – Wrap up: All these thoughts & feelings are acceptable – Talk about them with therapist and if they can’t handle it then consider a new one – but first tell your therapist you’re frustrated and you’re...

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0:00.0

Welcome to Therapist Uncensored, a podcast where therapists freely speak their minds about real life matters.

0:09.0

Hi, I'm Anne Kelly. I'm Patty Allwell. And I'm Sue Marriott, and we have a question for you all.

0:18.0

Have any of you ever fallen in love with your therapist?

0:21.0

Or wanted to kill them?

0:23.7

Have sex with them?

0:26.7

Go home with them maybe, like, you know,

0:29.1

get packed in a bag and be tucked in, and be tucked in,

0:32.4

right?

0:33.2

Or stop out the door and never see them again.

0:35.6

Right, flip them off.

0:38.1

Many of you out there have written to us and said

0:40.9

that you wanted to talk about the relationship between a psychotherapist and a client.

0:47.6

And it's a really or can be a really intimate relationship with a lot of big feelings.

0:53.0

Definitely.

0:54.0

That's right.

0:55.0

I mean, there's the potential for harm because of the power differential and the relationship.

1:00.0

And there's also the potential for the most incredible neural sculpting and mind change and brain change that can happen.

1:09.8

Right, I was reading the other day that when you think about the therapist you're choosing,

1:15.8

understand that you will be changed by this relationship.

1:19.8

And hopefully it's a positive change, but whatever it is it will be different based on which therapists you choose because every attachment relationship is individual and is unique.

1:33.0

Well, and the other side of that is as therapists,

1:36.0

we're also shaped and influenced,

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