The more therapy you have, the more frequently you have it, the longer it goes on, the better you do.

And Susan Lazarus' work shows that, overall, the more therapy you have, the fewer days you take off from work,

the less you have physical illness, the less likely you are to have a drug addiction, the less likely you are to go to jail.

So society in the long run benefits enormously from front-ending psychotherapy.

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Hey, everybody. I am so pleased to introduce you, our guest today, Dr. Nancy McWilliams.

applause! You guys are gonna love her.

Would you mind, let's get started, maybe, with just saying a little bit about yourself?

Yeah, I've been a therapist since, I guess, my first patient I saw was in 1972 when I was still in graduate school.

When I was in my...

I think we call that seasoned, is that right?

I always know.

Seasoned therapist.

I've always been interested in individual differences, and I really didn't discover, like, when else,

until I was in college as a political theory major, and a professor suggested that I was pretty psychologically attuned,

and so perhaps I should do a political theory thesis on Sigmund Freud's political theory.

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