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Hey ladies and gentlemen, and every other beautiful person on the gender continuum spectrum

welcome, we're going to be doing something a little bit different today, I'm going to share

with you a case, and the case is going to illuminate some of the stuff we've been learning about

with attachment. And after I share the story, I'll say more about some of the things that it

highlights. Mainly, it is the balance of fear and attachment. You can kind of listen for that in

it. But I think I'm going to leave that part to the end so that we can jump right into the story.

And the case is about a goose named Felicity. Quit context. I learned about it from Dan Stern.

He wrote a paper entitled, A Felicitous Meeting of Attachment and Relational Psychotherapy.

Now, if you haven't heard of Dan Stern, he is a preeminent psychiatrist and psychoanalytic

theorists. He wrote the interpersonal world of the infant, particularly about subjectivity

and infants rather than things being linear stages of development that a baby goes through.

He helped move us to the interpersonal world about baby mother together, you know, what happens

in between. And so that is true for psychotherapy or close relationships in general that it's about

what happens in between. So that just gives you some context of who he is. And the case, the woman

who wrote the original article is named Helga Fisher Mambola. She worked at Conrad Lorenz Lab.

Conrad Lorenz, you might recognize as the gentleman who did all the work with geese and imprinting.

He's the one who discovered that, you know, within a couple of days geese and ducklings imprint

on their mothers. That's why you see the little line of gostlings following the mama super cute.

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