The more therapy you have, the more frequently you have it, the longer it goes on, the better you do.

And Susan Lizzart's work shows that overall, the more therapy you have the fewer days you take off

from work the less you have physical illness the less likely you are to have a drug

addiction the less likely you are to go to jail. So society in the long

run benefits enormously from front-ending psychotherapy. Hey everybody.

Hey everybody.

Welcome to Therapists Unsert.

This is a podcast that breaks down interpersonal

science into practical and understandable tidbits.

And as you listen, I can just imagine little light bulbs of insight appearing above your head.

You're going to be surprised and touched at what you learn about yourself as you get more accurate

and in-depth view of your mind and your heart and as you figure out those close to you.

The therapist uncensored brings you decades of experience with interpersonal psychotherapy, relational neuroscience, modern attachment, and anything else they think will be helpful in healing humans.

Now, hear your co-host, Dr. Ann Kelly, and Sue Marriott.

Hey everybody, I am so pleased to introduce you,

our guest today, Dr. Nancy McWilliams.

Applause!

You guys are going to love her.

Would you mind, let's get started maybe with just saying a little bit about yourself?

Yeah, I've been a therapist since I guess my first patient I saw was in 1972 when I was still in

graduate school. When I was in my...

I think we call that seasoned is that right? Season therapist.

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