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The Sword & The Trowel

TS&TT: Third Wayism and the Liberal Gaze

The Sword & The Trowel

Founders Ministries

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8850 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Today on The Sword & The Trowel podcast, Tom Ascol and Graham Gunden discuss some recent events, how Christians ought to think about them, and the disappointing way that many evangelical leaders have responded in recent years. They talk about how Christians can chart a course forward in these tumultuous times. Show Notes:https://study.founders.org/library/political-theology-i-230048/about/https://press.founders.org/shop/king-of-kings/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXMbCWFEKybKaXsg8_cM3jf4xW7nQs4yx https://press.founders.org/shop/the-perils-and-promises-of-christian-nationalism/ Ready to plan your next event? Contact Lake Yale Baptist Conference Center: https://LYBCC.com Pre-Order "The Law for the Lawless": https://press.founders.org/shop/the-law-for-the-lawless/ Get 10% off Miller's Grove Soap with code "FOUNDERS": https://TheMillersGrove.com Order "A Commentary on the Baptist Catechism": https://press.founders.org/shop/a-commentary-on-the-baptist-catechism/ Register for the 2026 National Founders Conference - Make Disciples: https://founders.org/conference/ Founders Ministries: https://founders.org Support the Work of Founders: https://founders.org/give https://www.facebook.com/FoundersMin/https://twitter.com/FoundersMinhttps://www.instagram.com/foundersministries/ All Founders Ministries resources are copyrighted and any use and distribution must be approved by Founders Ministries.

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0:00.0

Thank you for joining us today on this episode of The Sword and the Trial.

0:03.1

Today, Pastor Tom and I talk about the things that have been going on in our society here in America for the past several weeks

0:08.8

and just trying to discern what time it is so we know what we should do in these times.

0:12.8

We talk about evangelical leadership over the past several years and kind of how to chart a course going forward in these tumultuous times.

0:19.9

I hope this is a helpful conversation to you. Take a

0:21.8

listen. Welcome to The Sword and the Trial. The Sword and the Trial is a podcast of founders' ministries

0:28.8

and founders exist for the recovery of the gospel and the reformation of local churches. I'm Graham Gundin.

0:33.9

I'm Tom Askell. And today's episode is brought to you by the Miller's Grove Soap Company and Lake Yale Baptist

0:38.8

Conference Center.

0:40.3

Today, with everything going on in the world and everything going on in our own country, Pastor

0:45.0

Tom and I wanted to talk to you about current events and especially what time it is for

0:51.0

us, what time it is for the evangelical church, and what we should be doing

0:54.9

about the times we're living in.

0:56.5

Yeah, just these are the kind of conversations we have regularly and our pastors have, our elders

1:02.1

will discuss these matters as we think about our church and how best to lead our people

1:06.8

through.

1:07.6

The aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, his martyrdom that we've talked

1:12.5

about before, but watching the world respond to it.

1:16.4

Both the Christian world, conservative Christian world, and the broader American world,

1:23.4

the leftist world, the international cultures.

1:27.1

It's been amazing to see the different responses

1:29.9

and how people are kind of trying to find their way, find their footing in the aftermath.

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