TS&TT: Shiplap & Millstones: Chip & Joanna Gaines Affirm Sin

The Sword & The Trowel

Founders Ministries

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 850 Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Today on The Sword & The Trowel podcast, Tom Ascol and Graham Gunden discuss the recent controversy involving Chip and Joanna Gaines and their new reality TV show. They talk about the need for Christians to maintain clarity in the face of sin and the role of the church in correcting these errors. Show Notes:Ready to plan your next event? Contact Lake Yale Baptist Conference Center: https://LYBCC.com Register for the 2025 Founders Pastors' Seminar: https://founders.org/pastorsseminar/ Get 10% off Miller's Grove Soap with code "FOUNDERS": https://TheMillersGrove.com Order "Abstract of Systematic Theology": https://press.founders.org/shop/abstract-of-systematic-theology/ Register for the 2026 National Founders Conference - Make Disciples: https://founders.org/conference/ Pre-Order "King of Kings": https://press.founders.org/shop/king-of-kings/ Shop the Founders Press Store: https://press.founders.org/ Become a part of the F.A.M. https://press.founders.org/fam/ The Institute of Public Theology: https://www.instituteofpublictheology.org/ Wield The Sword: https://founders.org/wieldthesword/ Follow Founders Ministries: Website: https://founders.orgFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/FoundersMin/Twitter: https://twitter.com/FoundersMinInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/foundersministries/ All Founders Ministries resources are copyrighted and any use and distribution must be approved by Founders Ministries.

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0:00.0	Thank you for joining us for this episode of The Sword and the Trial today. Today, Pastor Tom and I talk about the new drama unfolding at Magnolia Farms with Chip and Joanna Gaines and their new affirmation of a homosexual relationship on their TV show. I hope it's a helpful conversation to you. Take a listen.
0:18.7	Welcome to The Sword and the Trial. The Sword and the Trial is a podcast of founders' ministries
0:22.2	and founders exist for the recovery of the gospel and the reformation of local churches. I'm Graham
0:26.6	Gundin. I'm Tom Askell. And today's episode is brought to you by the Miller's Grove soap company
0:31.4	and excellent soap company. Highly recommend you go check them out. And also Lake Yale Baptist
0:35.4	Conference Center, a beautiful conference center up in
0:37.8	Central, North Florida. Tom, today, we're going to talk a little bit about the Chip and Joanna Gaines
0:45.2	saga that is unfolding before us. Yes, we ought to send them a copy of our book, The Beauty of the Binary,
0:50.8	and see if they could be helped by that because they've been in the news for
0:55.0	bad things. I never kept up a great deal with the Gaines and their Magnolia Empire that's in
1:02.3	Waco. I grew up in Texas and spent a lot of time driving through Waco, which stop only when
1:07.7	necessary. Why?
1:15.9	Baylor University is there, and I was a student at Texas A&M, and so it was a big rivalry there.
1:20.9	But Waco is a beautiful town, and, you know, just appreciated the fact that Chip and Joanna Gaines seemed to be Christians and were doing what they were doing and renovating houses,
1:25.3	making things beautiful, with a clear testimony of being
1:29.6	devoted to Jesus Christ. But I haven't heard from them in years. I've got relatives that would
1:34.7	travel there to do whatever the magnolia experience is and, you know, speak highly, and a lot of
1:39.6	the paraphernalia that they sell or in houses of people that I love. So it was very disappointing to
1:47.4	hear the last week or two things come out about this new venture. I think it's called Back to
1:53.4	the Frontier, right, where they, together with some other couples, our family unit, supposedly,
2:00.1	are going out to live like it was the 1880s
2:03.9	so without modern technology except for the film crew of course and the electricity that's
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