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The Sword & The Trowel

Founders Ministries

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 850 Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Today on the Sword & The Trowel, Tom Ascol and Graham Gunden welcome Megan Basham to talk about the recent discovery documents that have been made public surrounding the David Sills/Jennifer Lyell case. They discuss the lessons to be learned on how to not be manipulated, personally, as churches, and as a convention, by the cultural winds in the future. Show Notes:Ready to plan your next event? Contact Lake Yale Baptist Conference Center: https://LYBCC.com Pre-Order "The Folly and Vanity of Youth": https://press.founders.org/shop/the-folly-and-vanity-of-youth/ Register for the 2026 National Founders Conference - Make Disciples: https://founders.org/conference/ Get 10% off your first Miller's Grove order wtih code "FOUNDERS": https://themillersgrove.com/ Register for the 2026 National Founders Pre-Conference - Refreshed & Quickened: Stripping off the Burden of Egalitarianism: https://founders.org/preconference/ Order "Foundational Truths for Family Worship": https://press.founders.org/shop/foundational-truths-for-family-worship Founders Ministries: https://founders.org Support the Work of Founders: https://founders.org/give https://www.facebook.com/FoundersMin/https://twitter.com/FoundersMinhttps://www.instagram.com/foundersministries/ All Founders Ministries resources are copyrighted and any use and distribution must be approved by Founders Ministries.

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0:00.0	Thank you for joining us for this episode of The Sword and the Trial.
0:02.5	Today, Pastor Tom and I talk with our good friend Megan Basham and some of the work that she's done
0:06.7	investigating the David Sills Jennifer Lylell case and some of the stuff that's come forward is more has been exposed regarding that.
0:13.7	It's really helpful for us to learn some of the lessons here as a Southern Baptist convention, as churches,
0:18.9	how not to be manipulated by the cultural zeitgeist.
0:21.4	I hope it's a helpful conversation for you.
0:23.6	Take a listen.
0:27.6	Welcome to The Sword and the Trial.
0:29.0	The Sword and the Trial is a podcast of Founders Ministries
0:31.2	and Founders Exists for the Recovery of the Gospel
0:33.3	and the Reformation of Local Churches.
0:35.0	I'm Graham Gundin.
0:35.9	I'm Tom Askell.
0:37.0	And this episode is brought to you by the Miller's Grove Soap Company and Lake Yale Baptist Conference Center.
0:42.9	Today we have on a longtime friend of the ministry and one who's been on the podcast before.
0:49.0	That's Meg Basham.
0:49.8	And we have her on here to talk about some of the things that are taking place in the Southern Baptist Convention, namely those things regarding the David Sills, Jennifer Lylell case that has kind of been unfolding.
1:00.7	And Meg has done a lot of work on this.
1:02.4	So thanks so much for coming on the podcast today, Megan.
1:06.3	Yeah, absolutely.
1:07.1	Thanks for having me back again.
1:08.8	Yeah, we have appreciated your journalism for a long time.
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