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The Sword & The Trowel

TS&TT: Is Public School Sinful?

The Sword & The Trowel

Founders Ministries

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Education

4.8849 Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Today on The Sword & The Trowel podcast, Tom Ascol and Graham Gunden discuss education and the recent discussion on if public school is sinful. They address parents' responsibility to educate their children, the role of the government in education, and provide some biblical wisdom for evaluating education options. Show Notes:Ready to plan your next event? Contact Lake Yale Baptist Conference Center: https://LYBCC.com Pre-Order "The Folly and Vanity of Youth": https://press.founders.org/shop/the-folly-and-vanity-of-youth/ Check out the Founders Study Center: https://study.founders.org/ Register for the 2026 National Founders Conference - Make Disciples: https://founders.org/conference/ Register for the 2026 National Founders Pre-Conference - Refreshed & Quickened: Stripping off the Burden of Egalitarianism: https://founders.org/preconference/ Order "Foundational Truths for Family Worship": https://press.founders.org/shop/foundational-truths-for-family-worship Founders Ministries: https://founders.org Support the Work of Founders: https://founders.org/give https://www.facebook.com/FoundersMin/https://twitter.com/FoundersMinhttps://www.instagram.com/foundersministries/ All Founders Ministries resources are copyrighted and any use and distribution must be approved by Founders Ministries.

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0:00.0

Thank you for joining us for this conversation today on the Sword and the Trial.

0:03.0

Today, Pastor Tom and I talk about education, the parents' responsibility, the state's responsibility.

0:08.0

Is it a sin to send your children to a public school?

0:12.0

And we'll talk about more as well. I hope it's a helpful conversation for you. Take a listen.

0:19.0

Welcome to The Sword and the Trial. The Sword in the Trial is a podcast of Founders Ministries and Founders Exists for the Recovery

0:24.6

of the Gospel and the Reformation of Local Churches.

0:27.0

I'm Graham Gundin.

0:27.8

I'm Tom Askell.

0:28.9

And today's episode is brought to you by Lake Yale Baptist Conference Center up there by

0:33.6

Lake Yale, up in northern central Florida.

0:36.3

Right by Lake Yale.

0:37.3

Right on Lake Yale. Beautiful campus.

0:39.3

I highly recommend that you check them out. Today, we want to talk about some of the brouhaha

0:44.6

that's been taking place on social media. I'm not on social media right now, but I have friends who are,

0:50.2

yourself included. Thank you for calling me your friend. And I've heard that there's a lot of conversation regarding education, public school, homeschooling, church discipline, biblical balance and wisdom, and all of those things. And so we wanted to make sure that we got in and we gave a few black eyes and we got a few black eyes. No, we want to just tell you God's way. You know, we're going to give you God's way of educating your children, right? So we've got

1:13.7

that figured out. This will be a short podcast, but nevertheless, we're going to give you the true

1:18.5

skinny on all this. And before we get too deep into it, praise God, that Christians are talking

1:24.9

about this. I mean, this is right and good to be concerned about education, educating your children

1:30.3

because God gives children parents for that specific purpose.

1:35.3

It is our job to bring them up.

1:37.3

Ephesion 6-4, if you didn't have anything else, but that in the Bible, it says fathers,

1:43.3

do not exasperate your children, but bring them up.

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