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Jeff Myers is president of Summit Ministries, based in Colorado, and he has a new book out

entitled Truth Changes Everything, How People of Faith can transform the world in times of crisis.

Our topic today. Welcome, Dr. Myers.

Well, it's great to be with you,

Mark. I've been really looking forward to this. Love your book, Dumbest Generation. That helped us a lot at Summit, too, by the way. Okay, okay, okay. You begin by saying, making an interesting

correction, really. You say that the primary battle today, and it's so easily to think this way, is not

between believers and atheists, conservatives, and liberals, or Democrats and Republicans,

but most fundamentally between those who believe in a knowable, objective truth and those who don't.

Clarify, please. Okay, well, 75% of millennials in a recent survey said that what works best for you,

for your life, is the only truth you can know. So we've actually seen a shift. Now, away from the

idea that truth is objectively knowable, that it's somewhere out there, and we can find it,

even if it's difficult, to the postmodern idea that truth is essentially a social construction.

So when we use words, the words are about words. The words bear no relationship

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