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In Our Time

Truth, Lies and Fiction

In Our Time

BBC

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4.69.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 1999

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss truth, lies and fiction. In 1995 a book appeared which brought its author great acclaim from serious critics, won prizes, stunned its readers and was thought to add significantly and profoundly to the literature of the Holocaust. The book was called Fragments, its author, Binjamin Wilkomirski. But recently the veracity of the account told in Fragments has been questioned by Elena Lappin, the author of an investigative essay published in the literary magazine Granta. When it was exposed as a fiction - or should it be called a lie? - it triggered many arguments, one of which is that of the value of authenticity and the supremacy of originality in the culture of the late twentieth century. Does it really matter if literature isn’t entirely truthful? And is the idea of authenticity in writing a recent invention?With Elena Lappin, novelist and author of an investigative essay published in Granta called ‘Truth and Lies’, where she questions the veracity of the account of the Holocaust in the book Fragments by Binjamin Wilkomirski; Dr Nick Groom, lecturer in English, University of Exeter.

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0:00.0

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0:46.5

the program.

0:47.5

Hello I'm joined today by Eleanor Lapin and Nick Groom to examine truth, lies and fiction. Does it really matter if literature

0:55.0

including memoirs aren't entirely truthful? And is the idea of authenticity in writing a recent invention.

1:02.0

In 1995 a book called Fragments was launched onto the world to great

1:05.3

critical acclaim written by Benjamin Vilkomirski, with the subtitle Memoas of Childhood

1:11.5

1939 to 1948, the book described the events of a Jewish

1:15.6

childhood spent in the concentration camps. The book was hailed as a classic of

1:20.0

Holocaust literature. But recently the veracity of his account, told in fragments, has been questioned by my guest

1:26.4

Eleanor Lapin, the author of an investigative essay published in the most recent edition of Granta. Born in Moscow, Eleanor Lapping grew up in Prague and Hamburg and she has lived in Israel, Canada and the United States.

1:38.0

She moved to London in 1993 where she edited the Jewish quarterly until 1997.

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She's the author of a collection of short stories, foreign bodies, and she's currently working on a novel entitled

1:48.1

The Nose.

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Dr Nick Groom is a lecture in English at the University of Exeter. He is the author of a number of academic books

1:54.7

and reviews including The Making of Percy's Reliquis and Thomas Betterton and Romantic Culture.

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