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Here we go. My name's Todd.

This is Gatty.

Welcome back to another episode of Zen Parenting Radio.

This is podcast number 552.

Why listen to Zen Parenting Radio?

Because you'll feel outstanding.

And I always remember our motto, which is that the best predictor of a child's

well-being is a parent's self-understanding. On today's show, give us a tease. So today's show is

going to be about how the truth is hard, but it's also so much easier. That doesn't make any sense at all.

Paradox. Paradox. Got to live it. Truth is hard, but it's also so much easier i'm writing this down so

i don't forget what we're talking about today yes do you want me to tell you where i got it sure

okay so bernay brown um interviewed the duplas brothers mark and jay month or so ago um and i've

listened to it three times for for some reason they're just all these things they said just struck a chord with me.

And I think it's that overlap of the entertainment industry with our conversations, with art, with writing.

Like, I just feel like there's so much overlap.

So one of the things that they were talking about, I think it was Mark who said it and Todd and I tried to go through the podcast and find the exact point, but we couldn't because it was like an hour and 15 minutes.

But you can listen to the whole thing. It's worth your time.

Mark at some point is talking about how he and Jay relate to each other and have conversation and how they have learned that the

truth is so hard, but it's so much easier in the long run. And I think I've been saying

this to people for the last couple weeks in regards to having conversations about race, into

talking to our partners, about our partnership, into how you parent your children.

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