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Deep Background with Noah Feldman

Truth in the Time of Deepfakes

Deep Background with Noah Feldman

Pushkin Industries

News Commentary, News, Government

4.4848 Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2019

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Boston University School of Law Professor Danielle Citron says that deepfakes are just going to get more and more convincing, but there are sill certain things we can do to stop their spread.

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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:08.7

It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here?

0:13.8

Fiasco is a history podcast for the co-creators of Slow Burn.

0:17.6

In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examined an unmistakable turning point in American

0:22.1

politics, the 2000 election, which resulted in a high-stakes stalemate, ended with one of the most

0:27.7

controversial rulings in Supreme Court history.

0:30.5

So if you're trying to make sense at the present moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore.

0:35.0

Listen on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

0:40.7

From Pushkin Industries, this is Deep Background, the show where we explore the stories behind

0:46.4

the stories in the news. I'm Noah Feldman. We used to say, seeing is believing, but that was

0:53.7

before the invention of deep fakes.

0:56.0

Increasingly, affordable technology can actually create manufactured audio and video that no human eye or ear will be able to distinguish from the real thing.

1:07.0

Does that mean we can't trust our eyes anymore? That we'll have to develop a pervasive sense of insecurity about what's actually true?

1:14.7

Or could it open the door to something a little healthier?

1:17.8

Like a modest skepticism?

1:19.5

Or a world where we will be more cautious about what we believe?

1:23.2

To discuss these hard questions, I'm joined by Danielle Citron,

1:27.4

a professor at the Boston University School of Law.

1:30.5

Danielle is the vice president of the Cyber Civil Rights Initiative, which is a non-profit devoted to the protection of civil rights and liberties in the digital age.

1:39.3

She works very closely with lawmakers, law enforcers, and big social media platforms.

1:45.3

She's written extensively about deep fakes. And in June 2019, she testified before the House Intelligence Committee on

1:51.1

the subject. Danielle, I'm just so thrilled that you're here to talk to us about deep fakes.

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