Bushkin.

Why is Miami, Miami?

What does the heartbreaking fate of the Cheetah tell us about the way we raise our children?

Why do Ivy League schools care so much about sports?

I'm Malcolm Gladwell. In my new audiobook, Revenge of the

Tipping Point, I'm returning to the subject of social epidemics and the dark side of contagious

phenomenon. Find revenge of the tipping point wherever you find audiobooks out now.

From Pushkin Industries, this is Deep Background, the show where we explore the stories

behind the stories in the news. I'm Noah Feldman. It's almost a cliche to say that the future

of work lies in gig work.

That might not even be true, at least not if California gets his way.

The governor there, Gavin Newsom, recently signed a law that will have a huge impact on the way the gig economy works in the state.

The law, referred to as AB5,

is supposed to make it harder for app-based platforms like Uber and Lyft

to classify their drivers as independent contractors

rather than as full-time employees.

The law codifies and expands a 2018 California Supreme Court decision known as the Dynamics case.

Today on Deep Background, we're going to do something a little different than we usually do.

Instead of having just one long conversation about a topic, we're going to talk to two different people,

one at a time, with very different perspectives on AB5.

The first is Lorena Gonzalez.

She's the California Assemblywoman who actually sponsored the bill.

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