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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about politics.

It's Thursday, December 8th. I'm Dorothy Wickendon, executive editor conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about politics. It's Thursday, December 8th.

I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of the New Yorker.

In October, at a campaign rally in Green Bay, Wisconsin, Donald Trump talked about government

corruption and what he would do about it.

It is time to drain the swamp in Washington, D.C. This is why I'm proposing

a package of ethics reforms to make our government honest once again. When Bill Clinton came

into office, he signed an executive order saying, if you work for the White House or a federal agency, you can't lobby the government for five years after you leave.

But then President Clinton did what the Clintons always do. He rigged the system on his way out, right?

Clinton lifted the executive order. so Clinton cronies,

like John Podesta, could start raking in cash.

John Cassidy joins me to discuss concerns about the potential ethical problems posed by

the Trump administration. Hey, John. Hi, Dorothy. One of Trump's major promises during his campaign, and we heard some of it above,

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