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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Mark Bauerlein Talks to Kelefa Sanneh About the Intellectual Case for Trump

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Obama, Washington, Politics, President, Barack, Lizza, Wnyc, News, Wickenden

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2016

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

Mark Bauerlein is an unlikely Trump supporter: a socially conservative Catholic intellectual who grew up idolizing Martin Luther King, Jr. He once blogged about his distress at people cursing in public. Bauerlein believes in standards. But, as an English professor at Emory University, he became so concerned about what he sees as the oppressiveness of political correctness that he came to celebrate Trump’s violation of taboos—no matter how cringe-worthy. For Bauerlein, Trump is a figure out of Hegel, a “world-historical figure” who arises at the right time to bring about a necessary change in society.

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I'm Dorothy Wickendenden. On today's Politics and More podcast, the New Yorker's

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Kela Fasana talks to Mark Bauerline, a professor at Emory University and editor at the

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Religious Journal First Things. Bauerline believes that the election of Donald Trump represents an antidote to the

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cultural political correctness on college campuses.

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So, Kay, you've been working on a piece about Trumpism, the politics of Donald Trump,

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and how conservatives of all different stripes are responding to him. You recently talked with

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a writer by the name of Mark Bauerline. Who is he, and why did you want are responding to him. You recently talked with a writer by the

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name of Mark Bauerline. Who is he? And why did you want to talk to him? Well, for obvious reasons,

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we've been hearing a lot about Trumpism and what Trump believes. And a lot of what we've been hearing,

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almost all of it has come from people who criticize Trump, people who are skeptical about him.

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So I thought it would be interesting to talk to

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some of the scholars and intellectuals who are actually excited about Trump. Mark Barrelein is an English

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