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On this week's episode of The Waves, we talked a little bit briefly with Dahlia

about the case of E. Jean Carroll and her accusations against the president.

On a special episode of Trumpcast that was released on Thursday,

Dahlia Lithwick and Virginia Heffernan spoke with

E. Jean Carroll. And we think this is a fascinating, newsbreaking interview. So we are giving

you a little excerpt from it. If you want to hear the whole thing, go to the Trumpcast feed.

That's the Slate Trumpcast feed, and you will find a full run of the interview. So go there to

find the whole thing, but here's an excerpt that we hope you'll enjoy. What would you say if, you know,

if I told you this story or someone wrote into your column for advice, I mean, you've probably been

asked this before. But I know that... No, I haven't, actually.

Virginia, you were the first one. Well, let's hear it. Because I write in and I say,

Auntie E! You know, I ran into a rich guy in a fancy department store and he bashed my head up against the wall and put his penis in me

and I had to fight to get away. What should I do? I would say he raped you. He raped you. I want you to go

and talk immediately with someone that you trust and I want you to consider going to the police

because telling a woman to go to the police can sometimes be in another horrible

experience for her I was you know tell her someone she loves and trusts possibly go to a

therapist and to consider going to the police. And I've actually written that.

I've published answers that.

How to do that.

So yes, Virginia, you've nailed me.

And that's why I finally came forward.

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