Welcome to another edition of The Oath and the Office.

I'm John Fuglesang on this episode, the most normal sentence ever uttered in a functioning

democracy.

The president sent the director of national intelligence

to Georgia to rummage through ballots from an election he lost five years ago. Nothing to see here.

Just the nation's top intel officer hanging out at a county election office like she's browsing

at a thrift store for ballot Scooby-Doo. I need someone smarter than me to make sense of this. Please, people of earth, welcome the star of our show. Professor Corey Brechtnyder. You know him and love him from his work in the Polyside apartment at Brown. You've seen him on CNN, MSNBC. Time magazine. You should already own the book, the oath in the office. Professor Brett Schneider, it's so good to have you with us.

Thanks, John. What a pleasure to do this podcast with you. And, you know, we started this show because we were worried about a president who was going to disregard the oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. And, you know, I wish it turned out that we were totally wrong, and this is a normal presidency, but we know it's anything but.

And the stories today really illustrate that, what you mentioned, the attempt to sue Trevor Noah will talk about.

Oh, we've got a lot.

Many more.

We've got Tulsi Gabbard and the Georgia Election Center raid and Trump saying the quiet part out loud about taking over the election.

I want to talk about Trevor No in the Grammys. Epstein files as well, and the Epstein files now affecting Trump's new pick to run the Fed and do his bidding.

But first, we have to talk about five-year-old Liam Ramos, who many of you got to know from a photograph of this little boy

in Minnesota, wearing the blue bunny hat with his Spider-Man backpack, a preschooler who was

seized by ice to be bait for his father, Adrian Alexander Conejo Arias. They were sent to the

South Texas Family Residential Center in Dilley, Texas. They are

Ecuadorian asylum seekers. They are legal asylum seekers. And this week, what a blistering,

blistering federal judge ruling ordering the release of both father and son. Professor, wow,

Judge Byerey got fiery.

I've become a real fan of outraged judge rulings in the Trump era.

But when a federal judge says the government is ignorant of the Declaration of Independence

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