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Today, Explained

Trump v. Mangione

Today, Explained

Vox

Politics, Daily News, News

4.3 • 10.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

The Trump administration is seeking the death penalty for Luigi Mangione, who is scheduled back in court this week. Plus, a closer look at a work that may have inspired Mangione (the Unabomber’s manifesto). This episode was produced by Hady Mawajdeh, edited by Jolie Myers, fact checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Luigi Mangione appearing at a February hearing for the murder of UHC CEO Brian Thompson. Photo by Curtis Means - Pool/Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Luigi Mangione is supposed to be back in court on Friday, and court looks different when Luigi shows up.

0:06.0

The last time that I was in court with him, there were so many members of the public that wanted to be inside the courtroom, and so many of them were young women.

0:19.0

Mangione has a fan club.

0:21.7

People outside with signs, people inside lining up.

0:27.1

I mean, sometimes for a really long time to just want to get into the courtroom to see him.

0:32.8

It's just a different experience than the people that you are typically seeing.

0:40.5

While we different this week is that it'd be the first time Mangione appeared since the federal government, the Justice Department, Pam Bondi, Donald Trump, have said they would like to seek the death penalty in this case.

0:53.8

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