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🗓️ 8 July 2025
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CTRL+F for “birthright citizenship” in this majority opinion, and you only get two hits. That’s because Amy Coney Barrett spends thousands of words telling you that the President's evisceration of birthright citizenship from the Constitution isn’t really about birthright citizenship, it’s about nationwide injunctions.
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0:00.0 | Hey y'all, it's me. I don't think I have to say it's Riannon every time, right? So y'all heard that I went to Egypt as part of the global march to Gaza. You've heard a bit about my organizing in the Palestine movement here at home. So I wanted to let everyone know about an important conference that's happening here in the U.S., the People's Conference for Palestine, coming up on August 29th to |
0:22.5 | the 31st in Detroit. I'm going to be at this conference with my other podcast called Popular |
0:29.1 | Cradle, and we're going to be joining thousands of other people to bring together leaders in the |
0:36.0 | movement for Palestinian liberation and really critical voices |
0:39.4 | in this struggle. Community members, students, artists, activists, cultural workers, everyone |
0:45.8 | involved in this movement to stop genocide, to oppose colonialism, to free Palestine is welcome. |
0:52.7 | Whether you're just learning about this or you're a seasoned |
0:55.4 | activist. Amazing speakers are already confirmed, including Dr. Hassan Aboussitti, the journalist |
1:02.6 | Nora Barrowse Friedman, human rights lawyers, former political prisoners, journalists and thinkers |
1:09.1 | in Palestine. It's going to be amazing. There will be special children's |
1:14.1 | programming and child care. So truly, y'all, this is for everyone from all backgrounds who are |
1:20.5 | interested in expanding our movement, expanding people power in the fight against fascism, colonialism, Zionism. |
1:29.7 | So join me and a ton of others in Detroit, August 29th to the 31st, at the People's Conference for Palestine. |
1:38.3 | You can get a lot more info and register at people's conference for palestine.org. That's all spelled out. People's conference for Palestine.org. That's all spelled out, |
1:45.8 | people's conference for Palestine.org. We will hear argument this morning in case 24A884, |
1:53.4 | Trump v. Kasa Incorporated and the consolidated cases. |
2:00.7 | Hey, everyone. |
2:02.0 | This is Leon from Prologue Projects. |
2:04.7 | On this episode of 5 to 4, Peter, Riannon, and Michael are talking about Trump v. Casa. |
2:11.4 | This is a recent case about birthright citizenship and whether lower district courts can issue nationwide injunctions. |
2:19.6 | Trump v. Casa stems from Donald Trump's executive order purporting to end birthright citizenship |
2:24.5 | for children born in the United States to undocumented parents. |
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