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Ukrainecast

Trump: Ukraine “may be Russian some day”

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Is the Trump administration gearing up for talks on Ukraine? Victoria and Vitaly are joined in the studio to discuss this by Christina Lamb of The Sunday Times.

She also talks about the posthumous release of a new book by her friend Victoria Amelina, who was killed in Kramatorsk in 2023. ‘Looking at Women Looking at War’ is released later this week.

And former Conservative MP Jack Lopresti tells us why he’s gone to serve in Ukraine’s military… and whether his children are happy about his decision.

Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko. The producers were Ben Carter, Ryan Johnston and Stuart Denman. The technical producer was Philip Bull. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The assistant editor is Ben Mundy. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480

You can join the Ukrainecast discussion on Newscast’s Discord server here: tinyurl.com/ukrainecastdiscord

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello there, listeners, Vitaly Pashenko here. You've probably heard me on the podcast before

0:04.5

talking about life as a student in Kyiv. And before you dive into today's episode, I just wanted to

0:10.2

let you know that I'll be on a special edition of this podcast, marking three years since the

0:15.1

full-scale invasion began. Some other friends of the podcast will be joining me. If you have any

0:20.3

questions for us or about the war in general,

0:23.3

please send us an email or a WhatsApp message.

0:26.4

You can find the contact details in the episode description on the website.

0:30.6

Thanks.

0:32.5

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts.

0:35.8

Hello, it's 1884 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

0:41.8

And we've had this question from a Ukraine cast listener. Hello, Ukraine cast. This is Claudia from London.

0:47.6

I was wondering what are the rumors that you hear with regard to Trump and Ukraine. Is it going to announce something soon? Thank you very much.

0:56.2

While Claudia, have a listen to President Trump speaking to Fox News on Monday.

0:59.9

We're spending hundreds of billions of dollars and, you know, they may make a deal,

1:05.4

they may not make a deal, they may be Russian someday or they may not be Russian someday,

1:10.4

but we're going to have all this money

1:11.6

in there and I say I want it back. And I told them that I want the equivalent like $500 billion

1:18.2

worth of rare earth. And they've essentially agreed to do that. Whoa, Vitale. That's a lot to

1:25.1

unpick. It is and it's definitely not going to go down particularly well in Ukraine,

1:31.2

being told that, well, you may be Russian someday, but I want my money back.

1:36.0

Does that mean Russia might win this war?

1:38.3

Well, I think it means two things.

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