Trump calls Putin AND Zelensky to begin talks
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 12 February 2025
⏱️ 17 minutes
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Summary
In a pivotal day for the war in Ukraine, Donald Trump has agreed to ‘work together’ with Vladimir Putin to end the conflict. Immediately after the call with Putin, Trump spent an hour on the phone with Volodymyr Zelensky.
Earlier in the day, the new US defence secretary Pete Hegseth told a meeting of the Ukraine Defence Contact Group in Brussels that it was unrealistic that Ukraine could return to its pre-2014 borders and he ruled out NATO membership for Ukraine.
BBC Security Correspondent, Frank Gardner joins Victoria and Vitaly to discuss the latest developments. The producers were Ryan Johnston and Ben Carter. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The assistant editor is Ben Mundy. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.1 | Hello, it's 185 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:10.1 | And we are recording an extra episode because things are developing. |
| 0:15.9 | In the last hour, President Trump has said he has agreed with President Putin of Russia to start negotiations |
| 0:23.2 | on Ukraine immediately, that they would visit each other's nations, and he's assigned a team |
| 0:29.6 | to lead these negotiations. President Trump and President Putin have had a 90-minute phone call |
| 0:35.3 | about this. The new US Defense Secretary has laid out for the first |
| 0:40.6 | time what the US administration, what this new US administration wants to do regarding Ukraine. |
| 0:47.6 | He has said it's unrealistic to expect that Ukraine could return to its pre-2014 borders. As you know, Ukrainecast listeners, |
| 0:57.5 | that is when Russia invaded and took control of Crimea. There is so much to digest and to try |
| 1:04.9 | to make sense of in this episode of Ukrainecast. |
| 1:08.6 | Ukraine cast from BBC News. Evil cannot be trusted. |
| 1:13.6 | Ask Pregojin. |
| 1:14.6 | You are not dealing with a politician, but with a bloody monster. |
| 1:18.6 | Is there a need for a serious opponent? |
| 1:21.6 | Why? |
| 1:22.6 | I will prevent World War III. |
| 1:24.6 | It's not just about Ukraine, it's about the whole future of Europe. I don't understand |
| 1:29.6 | what this war is for. Hello, this is Victoria Derbyshire in the Ukrainecast studio. And hello, I'm Frank Gardner, |
| 1:38.3 | BBC security correspondent, also in the Ukraine cast studio. And this is Vitaly Shepchenko. I am at home. |
| 1:45.0 | Right. There's been so much movement in the last few hours. Let's go through it. |
| 1:49.1 | Starting with President Trump's comments, this is some of what he posted on truth social a short time ago. |
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