Trump the Moderator (2011) w/ James Poniewozik
This Day (An America 250 History Show)
Jody Avirgan & Radiotopia
4.5 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 13 December 2020
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
It’s December 13th. On this day in 2011, Donald Trump wrote a letter announcing that he was bowing out of moderating (!) a Newsmax presidential debate.
Jody and Niki are joined by James Poniewozik of the New York Times to discuss Trump’s flirtation with both moderating a debate and running for president, and how the conservative media ecosystem has evolved over the last 10 years.
James’s latest book is “Audience of One.” Nikki’s book i “Messengers of the Right.”
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from Radiotopia. |
| 0:07.0 | My name is Jody Abergan. |
| 0:10.0 | This day, December 13th, 2011, it technically happened on the 12th. |
| 0:15.9 | Donald Trump bows out of moderating a news max debate of Republican presidential |
| 0:20.7 | candidates in Iowa, announcing his decision in a statement |
| 0:24.0 | saying he would not be participating because he did not want to give up the option of |
| 0:28.7 | running for president in the 2012 election. Yes, heard that right Donald Trump moderating a |
| 0:33.9 | GOP debate it almost happened folks and it is a good reminder of where Trump was |
| 0:38.7 | in his career at that time his relationship with the GOP less than a decade ago not to mention the state of |
| 0:44.8 | conservative media at that time so here to discuss as always is Nicole Hemmer of |
| 0:49.7 | Colombia hello Nicki hello jody And our special guest for this episode, perfect guest for this episode, New York Times |
| 0:56.8 | television critic James Panoazic, author of the book, Audience of One, which is all about |
| 1:01.6 | Donald Trump's relationship with television. |
| 1:04.0 | It is out in paperback now. James, thank you for joining us on the show. |
| 1:08.0 | Thank you, Jody, thank you, Nicole. |
| 1:10.0 | Before we get to Trump and this debate, James, did I read that you're from Michigan? |
| 1:13.8 | I am from Michigan, yes. |
| 1:15.8 | So I'm springing this on you, but our last episode was about the Great Toledo War of 1836. |
| 1:21.6 | Are you aware of the Michigan-Ohio border dispute? |
| 1:25.8 | It got us the upper peninsula. |
| 1:27.8 | There we go, see? |
| 1:28.8 | And I can still argue about whether that was a good deal or not. I have a sister who lives in Toledo so you know I should probably bow out of that but yes I am I am quite familiar with it. |
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