The Great Toledo War (1836) w/ Hanif Abdurraqib
This Day (An America 250 History Show)
Jody Avirgan & Radiotopia
4.5 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 10 December 2020
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
It’s December 10th. On this day in 1836, the final days of the “Great Toledo War,” a conflict over a strip of territory between the state of Ohio and the territory of Michigan.
Jody and Niki are joined by Hanif Abdurraqib to discuss the origins of the battle, whether it qualifies as a “war,” and what to make of the ongoing Ohio-Michigan rivalry.
Hanif is the host of the latest season of the excellent music podcast “Lost Notes.”
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from Radiotopia. |
| 0:07.0 | My name is Jody Avergan. |
| 0:09.0 | This day, December 10th, 1836, the final days of the Great Toledo War. |
| 0:18.2 | The Toledo War was a dispute between Ohio and Michigan over a strip of territory that jutted west from the city of Toledo, which is on the banks of Lake Erie. |
| 0:27.2 | This conflict flared up in the spring of 1835 and was finally resolved in December 1836 at what is known as the frostbitten |
| 0:36.0 | convention I suppose it was cold in Ohio and Michigan in the winter of 1836 so the |
| 0:41.0 | great Toledo War one question, was it a war? |
| 0:44.0 | It was certainly a dispute. |
| 0:45.0 | There were some troops, but only a handful. |
| 0:48.0 | There were some shots fired, but those were all into the air. |
| 0:50.0 | There was some bloodshed, but that was one person stabbed with a penknife during a scuffle. |
| 0:55.6 | So we can debate whether this counts as a war and much less a great war, but either way, it is a very interesting |
| 1:01.9 | story. |
| 1:02.6 | We've gotten a bunch of requests actually. |
| 1:04.1 | This might be the most requested thing |
| 1:05.4 | that we've gotten to do on this show. |
| 1:07.5 | And as you'll see, as I think you'll see, |
| 1:09.7 | it is about lots more than just 468 square miles of frostbitten territory. |
| 1:15.0 | So here to discuss as always is Nicole Hammer of Columbia. |
| 1:18.3 | Hello Nicole. |
| 1:19.3 | Also of Indiana, the neutral party in this decision. |
| 1:23.1 | Oh, is that right? |
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