Trump Targets Comey — and the Shutdown Showdown (with Malcolm Nance)

The Oath and The Office

Corey Brettschneider

Government, News, Politics

4.9 • 591 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of The Oath and The Office, Corey Brettschneider and John Fugelsang examine two urgent threats to American democracy before welcoming New York Times bestselling author Malcolm Nance.

The Comey indictment — moving forward without evidence, it shows Trump’s effort to weaponize the law and shut down democracy.
The shutdown — more than a budget standoff. Trump and Pete Hegseth’s rhetoric, plus threats of military crackdowns, reveal a “hard coup” strategy.
Malcolm Nance — MSNBC analyst, counterterrorism expert, and Ukraine war veteran, on Russian disinformation, QAnon, and the global fight against authoritarianism.

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0:00.0	Welcome to another edition of the Oath and the Office podcast.
0:14.3	I'm John Fuglesing.
0:15.6	Proud to welcome the star of our show,
0:18.4	the professor from the political science department at Brown, the writer you have
0:23.0	read in the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, and Time Magazine, the author of The Oath in the Office,
0:28.5	a guide to the Constitution for future presidents, as well as the presidents of the people. People of
0:33.2	Earth, let me welcome the star of our show, Professor Corey Brett Schneider. Hello, sir. Thanks, John. What a pleasure to speak with you every week.
0:41.1	You know what I'm excited about, though, Corey. We have a very special guest on the pod today.
0:45.2	I'm so excited that in the second half of the podcast, Malcolm Nance is going to join us. And of course, we've been talking about the threat to democracy.
0:53.1	He's going to bring out
0:54.4	the way that disinformation, both from abroad and internal to the United States, has really changed
1:00.1	the terrain of democracy, undermining its fundamental values. Yeah, don't miss this. It's really great.
1:05.9	I'm so thrilled we got him. You know, it would have been great if this attempted self-coup, this attempt to
1:11.8	destroy our democracy was over, but I don't think so. Oh, if it was over, what would we do? We'd have to
1:18.1	talk about Star Wars and sports every week, Corey. We'd be talking about how well we all get along
1:22.7	and how boring. I mean, look at just the last week, Professor, just since the last time we were
1:27.3	together. Last week, we had just since the last time we were together.
1:27.7	Last week we had that insane speech at the UN with the escalator nonsense, the bizarre
1:33.8	Tylenol press conference where we were told by a heavy-breathing RFK that pregnant ladies
1:40.0	shouldn't take Tylenol because the science doesn't say so.
1:43.3	This epic loss at ABC, Kimmel back on the air, Monday night football, staring down Sinclair.
1:49.9	Trump's saying that NATO should shoot down Russian jets now.
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