Trump signs order to defund NPR and PBS.
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Isaac Saul
4.8 • 672 Ratings
🗓️ 6 May 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
On Thursday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order directing the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) and all executive departments to end federal funding for National Public Radio (NPR) and the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS). The order claims that the outlets fail to offer “a fair, accurate, or unbiased portrayal of current events to taxpaying citizens” and instructs the CPB to “cancel existing direct funding to the maximum extent allowed by law” and “decline to provide future funding.” Executives at NPR and PBS called the order unlawful and said they would challenge it.
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| 0:40.7 | This is Tangle. |
| 0:44.7 | Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, the place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. |
| 1:00.0 | I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and on today's episode, we're going to be talking about President Donald Trump's efforts to defund NPR and PBS. |
| 1:07.6 | Actually, I kind of alluded to this story yesterday, but today we're going to get into it with a bit more depth. |
| 1:14.4 | And I think it's pretty interesting. |
| 1:17.0 | My take here is complicated, I guess you could say. |
| 1:21.5 | Before you jump in, though, I want to give you a quick heads up, though, that earlier this week, we had an interview with Greg Lukianov, the president and CEO of the |
| 1:29.5 | Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, also known as Fire, whose organization is involved |
| 1:35.2 | in high-profile cases like Mahmoud Khalil's deportation challenge and President Trump's |
| 1:39.6 | lawsuit against Iowa Pulcer and Seltzer. It was a great conversation. |
| 1:44.5 | Will Kay back from the editorial team, interviewed him. |
| 1:47.7 | I think it's very much worth your time. |
| 1:49.4 | Just want to let you know that that interview is up in our podcast feed. |
| 1:52.0 | If you scroll back a couple days, you can see it, and it is worth listening to. |
| 1:57.2 | All right, with that, I'm going to send it over to John for today's main pod, and I'll be back for my take. |
| 2:08.4 | Thanks, Isaac, and welcome, everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, the Department of |
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