From the New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams, and this is The Daily.

In recent weeks, the Trump administration has deported hundreds of Venezuelan migrants by quickly labeling them as gang members and foreign enemies, boarding them on planes to El Salvador,

and sidestepping their rights to a court hearing where anyone might be able to scrutinize the

claims made against them. As a result, very little has been known about who these men are

or how they were targeted by immigration officials, until now.

Today, my colleague Julie Turkowitz explains who was actually on those planes and the secretive process that led to their deportations.

It's Wednesday, April 23rd.

So, Julie, as a lot of our listeners know, there's been one story that has really dominated the news cycle recently. It's been the case of this man, Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia.

He was the Salvadoran man who was on one of the planes that deported hundreds of people from

the United States to El Salvador to these prisons.

But you've been focused on something else.

You have focused on the other 200-plus people who were on those planes,

as well as dozens of people around the country who have been rounded up by immigration authorities.

So can you just tell us what specifically have you been trying to look into?

Sure.

Myself and a large team of reporters and researchers at the times really wanted to understand

who were the people sent to El Salvador and how they were identified.

These are people who weren't just deported. They have also been incarcerated in a

foreign country, in a maximum security prison built for terrorists. And the Trump administration

has made all kinds of claims about these individuals saying that they are members of this Venezuelan

gang.

But we found, for example, in the case of Abrego Garcia, is that what the government is

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